Only 12999 were useless. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
Either way, glad you made it over.
at least my user name is more accurate now.
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Only 12999 were useless. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
Either way, glad you made it over.
freedon of religion guarantees any individual the legal right to abandon any religion at any time for any reason.. if you are a citizen of a country which champions human rights, then your government doesn t care what religion you join, but they will uphold your freedom to join it, without interference, coercion or persecution.
your countries human rights legislation will conversely uphold your rights when it comes time to abandon any religion you so choose.
those (elders) who incite others interfere, coerce or persecute those who have left will be in transgression of the human rights statutes.. a person is only obligated to ecclesiastic law if he exposes himself to it or transgressed it while still a member of a religious community.. when your time comes to abandon the jw-wt cult, do it while still in good standing, be proactive - be decisive -put it in writing!..and do it before the hounders set sights on you.. write a card or letter with as much or as little explanation as you one day might wish to share with pharisees and lawyers.. take this card to a notary public to have your signature witnessed and have the writing overstamped in several places with the date.
You owe them nothing. They have zero authority over you.
I told an elder that kept calling me, “you have the power and authority over me that I allow you. I don’t allow you any power or authority over me.”
When I first left, I wrote a few letters of disassociation- some long and some short. It felt good getting it off my chest, but I later deleted them. I agree with those who say “you are reaffirming their power over you by sending a letter of disassociation.”
please share your experiences..
I left and my wife cried once. A year later she joined me in leaving. This will be our second Christmas celebrated ever. Our 2 and 6 year olds love the tree, lights and everything that comes with it.
My uber dub mom still talks to me. I posted pictures of the kids in front of the Christmas tree on Facebook last week. I hadn’t talked to my mom in about 7-8 weeks and she mentioned seeing the pictures today when I called her. She didn’t say anything negative or bad about it. She just commented on how big the kids were getting. I have always, in the past, blocked her from seeing holiday and birthday pictures. But not this time. I even told her I would buy her a plane ticket to come visit in the spring or summer and she accepted. So for her, I think the shock has warn off and she is a bit more accepting than my sister.
My sister on the other hand unfriended me on FB a while back and we haven’t spoken for about a year. She’s married to a MS and married into an extremely large JW family.
My mother-in-law hasn’t treated us any different either.
My brother stopped attending at 16 and was never baptized. He and I have become much closer since I left.
Wife and I were both born in and baptized. In for 28 years and now out for over 3. Best decision I ever made.
i remeber the old young people ask book had an entry that explained why each holiday was bad.
i was searching for it today on jw.org and it looks like the new young people ask has ommited that section.
im just curiouse why jw's dont celebrate the holiday..
I say "try" because they are hypocrites. I remember having a big turkey dinner with an elder and his family. However it was a day or 2 later. Other years, i remember having turkey dinner on thanksgiving.
This was our first thanksgiving where we hosted. Went awesome. So full.
i remeber the old young people ask book had an entry that explained why each holiday was bad.
i was searching for it today on jw.org and it looks like the new young people ask has ommited that section.
im just curiouse why jw's dont celebrate the holiday..
Its a national holiday. JW's try to stay separate from national/all holiday celebrations.
today i was sat in a car full of jaydubs on the way home from the circuit assembly, and the discussion turned to halloween and how to avoid trick or treaters!.
seriously, there was talk of pulling curtains shut across front doors and how disgusting it was that parents let their children knock on doors , and how annoying it is to get a knock on the door knowing it's an uninvited person!
had to bite my tongue... .
and how annoying it is to get a knock on the door knowing it's an uninvited person!
husband is completely, beside himself livid.
he's going to the elders on me.
i've havent been to a meeting in over a year.
Just got back ourselves. Wife and I faded, so far unscathed. This is the second year we decorated for Halloween and this Christmas will be the second time decorating. Last Christmas 2 elders came to our door while the decorations were up. We haven’t heard a thing about it from them since. With your husband forcing their hand, there may be no way to escape their pursuit. As already mentioned… 2 witnesses or it didn’t happen…if your lucky.
Good luck. Keep us posted.
I now realize how much I missed out on as a little one. My kids had SO much fun.
months ago, i commented on another thread about a strategy i was using to introduce my wife to the way cults work--without using the word "cult" and scaring her away.
here's my first comment on that thread:.
i pulled hassan's bite model off the internet and imported it into my word processor.
Awesome! What a great method.
yesterday, i got our credit card statement, and looked at the charges.
over $500 to itunes.
questioned everyone, and it's for "jewels" for a kim kardashian game my 13 year old charged.
My 5 year old did the same thing on an old apple device we didn’t use anymore. I didn’t know the cc info was on the device. It was charged only around $40.00. We contacted iTunes and told them our 5 year old didn’t have permission to make charges. They refunded us the money. We changed all of our device’s settings since then.
this is my first time posting here, although i have been a visitor to it for around a year.
after doing a simple google search under "jehovah'switnesses" over a year ago, i found ttat.
i was deeply unhappy with the congregation and decided to educate myself, and boy what an education i have gotten so far.
Welcome! Love the Da' letter.
My peace of mind grew exponentially once I left the cult. Enjoy your freedom!